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In case you guys didnt know at a meeting, cant remember were, Bush was talking to Tony Blair right next to an open mic and said some notely things. Something along the lines of "Lebonan and Syria need to get there Shit together". America doesnt give a shit about bush anymore but England is pissed at Blair for being Americans little puppy. They are kicking him out. I guess thats what you get for being allies with the US.


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Anyone who is allies with

Anyone who is allies with the U.S is now being looked down on. Other countries are looking at them, going what the hell are those retards thinking!?!?! .... Which is what i am thinking too actually. sad, isnt it?


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Tony Blair is being forced

Tony Blair is being forced to step down by pretty much the whole country of England. May will be his 10 years in office and they are making him step down! lol


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tony Blair i thought was an

tony Blair i thought was an interesting person. many political figures dont really show the person in them, you can still tell with tony and bush that they are family men. to an extent.


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Tony Blair is such a

Tony Blair is such a consirvative jack ass. He banned all weapons, chemicals, fireworks and porn being bought on ebay. It is illegal to own bondage or anime porn in England. Along with knives, swords, guns, any kind of pyrotatics chemicals and any kind of fireworks.

Sorry that is a little over the top if you ask me


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It is over the top, but i

It is over the top, but i can see his reasoning. I mean, none of those really bring about a positive outcome, now do they? besides fun. which i think war is fun to watch. so not all fun things are good


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He just has no faith in his

He just has no faith in his own people which is his biggest fault.


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ha, what is the problem with

ha, what is the problem with no faith? we have no faith in god, correct? he has no reason to trust them.


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No i did not mean it in the

No i did not mean it in the sense. I ment in the sense that he puts no trust in his own people.


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He has no reason to trust

He has no reason to trust people. the majority of people are just like animals. How can many christians not believe in evolution when you see people acting just like apes? no brains, and hitting when they are angry. It is there. You can see it. He has no reason to trust those type of people, and the average person is like that.


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But most of England is

But most of England is protestant not catholic diffrent views on that one. And you need to trust your people if your going to rule them.


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you dont need to trust them,

you dont need to trust them, you need them to trust you


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In response to Greg's comment

[quote=Greg]It is over the top, but i can see his reasoning. I mean, none of those really bring about a positive outcome, now do they? besides fun. which i think war is fun to watch. so not all fun things are good[/quote]

So you think people don't have the right to be entertained?


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what does anyone here think

what does anyone here think about the whole iran thing?


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Don't take what I said the

Don't take what I said the wrong way. You were justifying Blair's actions by saying that those things Bryan listed (anime porn, knives, guns) bring out no positive outcome. Now, I ask, do people not have the right to be entertained? Can they not own anything simply for the fun of it?

Now, I was NOT saying that wars are entertaining. I realize that it might've sounded like that after I posted.


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I have a personal thing of

I have a personal thing of hate for porn. long story that involves losing friends. which i dont let affect my overall judgement. but for all those things. honestly, you dont need a gun to have fun. knives arent as big of a deal with me. and... anime porn to me just seems wierd. and the problem is that even if some people were responsible enough, not all are and stuff like that ends up getting distributed to people who are not responsible or smart enough to control them


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Bryan T wrote:Tony Blair is

[quote=Bryan T]Tony Blair is such a consirvative jack ass. He banned all weapons, chemicals, fireworks and porn being bought on ebay. It is illegal to own bondage or anime porn in England. Along with knives, swords, guns, any kind of pyrotatics chemicals and any kind of fireworks.

Sorry that is a little over the top if you ask me

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Actually banning things like knives, etc causes a bad outcome. Rememeber, NORMAL people follow the rules, CRIMINALS dont follow the rules. So criminals would have knives and guns. So if they wanted to rob a house, wheres your protection agianst the criminals? Course, Im not saying UK has a bad crime problem, saying things like Gun Control and Blair's Law can be problem, not really the porn tough, that might not cause crime.


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that is a good point. but

that is a good point. but they can live without the porn


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Bryan T wrote:Tony Blair is

[quote=Bryan T]Tony Blair is such a consirvative jack ass. He banned all weapons, chemicals, fireworks and porn being bought on ebay. It is illegal to own bondage or anime porn in England. Along with knives, swords, guns, any kind of pyrotatics chemicals and any kind of fireworks.

Sorry that is a little over the top if you ask me

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I can understand the banning of selling weapons (being unnecissary) But if you want to look at anime porn, I believe that's your perogative.
(Correct spelling???)


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But anime porn is, as you

But anime porn is, as you just told me, probably from the already being messed up. Would it not just mess them up even more? I see that almost in a way as seeing a homocidal person and giving him a gun to play with.


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There are many exceptions to

There are many exceptions to many instances, but I believe that there is a difference between violent self-pleasure, and sexual self pleasure. Sexual pleasure is innocent (Unless you're religious) and violence is never innocent, unless onces morals are warped and stray from that of the norm, which is determined by the majority impacting their society and setting its standards. I do not see it as giving a homocidal person a gun, because anime is the same as regular porn, just cartoons. They get off the same way most do from regular pornography, and in practically the same way, just in a semi-different variation. I believe it is innocent self-pleasure (Though a bit weird) while violence to some is certainly pleasure, but not harmless, hence violence. There is a vast difference between porno and killing Greg.

-By the way, I don't 'dig' animated pornography. I actually don't like regular pornography either (It sort of disgusts me).


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Adam Burnfin wrote:There are

[quote=Adam Burnfin]There are many exceptions to many instances, but I believe that there is a difference between violent self-pleasure, and sexual self pleasure. Sexual pleasure is innocent (Unless you're religious) and violence is never innocent, unless onces morals are warped and stray from that of the norm, which is determined by the majority impacting their society and setting its standards. I do not see it as giving a homocidal person a gun, because anime is the same as regular porn, just cartoons. They get off the same way most do from regular pornography, and in practically the same way, just in a semi-different variation. I believe it is innocent self-pleasure (Though a bit weird) while violence to some is certainly pleasure, but not harmless, hence violence. There is a vast difference between porno and killing Greg.

-By the way, I don't 'dig' animated pornography. I actually don't like regular pornography either (It sort of disgusts me).[/quote]

I think you are warping what I was saying. I didn't mean that it would make them go kill people. I meant It would mess them up even more.