Pascal's Wager

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Alright, basically every week or so I'm going to examine a theist argument, or a theists response to an atheist argument, and refute it. I'm mainly doing this for myself, the best way to defeat your opponent is to know their best arguments and have the ability to take them apart. Also, I'm a Philosophy major at Syracuse University, and I’ll probably end up using some of these blogs as essays. Please, if you think I am wrong, or have another point to add to the argument, respond to this. On to Pascal's Wager.

Pascal's Wager is basically an attempt by Pascal to prove that believing in God is more rational than not believing in God. Please note, Pascal is not trying to prove God exists, in fact, he did not believe it was possible to do so. He is attempting to give a reason to believe in God, which would make atheism or agnosticism, irrational.

Here is Pascal's claim. It is impossible to know whether or not God exists in this lifetime. However, we are all required to make a wager during our lives. Basically, we have to decide whether or not to believe in God.

If we decide to believe in God, and we are correct, then we are rewarded by eternal bliss, happiness, heaven, all of that good stuff. If we believe in God and we are wrong, nothing happens. We die.

If we decide to not believe in God, and we are correct, then nothing happens. We are in the same position as the believer who was wrong. But, if we choose not to believe in God and are wrong, we go to hell. Damnation. Lots of fire. Lots of lawyers. Not very fun.

It is important to note here, that you have to wager. If you choose agnosticism, you are in the same shape as the atheist. If there is a God, you go to hell. If not, nothing.

From this Pascal creates this argument.

1) Either God exists, or God does not exist.
2) If you believe in God, you may be rewarded.
3) If you do not believe in God, you will not be rewarded, and may be punished.
4) Therefore, it is rational to believe in God.
5) You should believe in God.

This entire concept is best represented in the form of a chart. However, I can't really draw, and I don't have one handy, but there is nice one here http://faculty.msb.edu/homak/HomaHelpSite/WebHelp/image26.jpg .

At first glance, this does not look to be such a terrible argument. However, when you think about it... it really just doesn't make much sense.

Refuting Pascal’s Wager:

1) Not believing isn't a choice! Not believing in God is based on rational. If someone truly does not believe in God, it is usually because they have thought about it, considered all of the evidence, and have come to the conclusion that God does not exist. Asking a person like this to believe in God would be similar to asking them to believe in the Easter Bunny. It's just impossible.

2) What is God? Is his argument, Pascal is assuming that the only possible God is his God, the Christian God. However, if as he claims one truly can never know if god exists, then how could we really know what God is like. Maybe there is a God in the heavens, but he is a different kind of God. He favors the rational, and gives them eternal life because he likes talking to them about things, like sports, why we're all here, stuff like that. However, he has no use for the loons who believe in man-made Gods, and sends their souls into some black hole somewhere. In this case, Pascal's Wager would be reversed. It would be better to not believe than to believe. There is no reason to believe in either of these Gods over the other one, and thus,
the third premise of Pascal's argument is no longer valid. Thus, the conclusions are also no longer valid.

3) Would you want to spend eternity with a God like Pascal’s? Pascal's God sends people to eternal torment for thinking. Who would worship such a God?

4) Why does God want us to worship him in the first place? Is God insecure? Why does the all knowing, all powerful God require out belief. Does he get offended if we don't believe in him or something? In fact, a God that is perfect would not be insecure, or in fact probably care at all if we believed in him.

5) There is no hell, it's a contradiction. For a very well written explanation of this, check out Nick Poling's essay. http://www.freethinkingteens.com/node/2030

You can refute Pascal's wager with anyone of these arguments. Personally, I like the second one best, because it tends to piss theists off the most. But, they all work. Till next time.
-Ph8

Nice work. People make

Nice work. People make Pascal out to be a genius, kind of like Ray Comfort. It's sad. Whenever a Christian comes up with what they THINK is a good argument they cling to it, no matter how many times you blow it out of the water. Tch.

Pascal was a genius... just

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Pascal]Pascal[/url] was a genius... just not in religious matters :) Comparing him to Ray Comfort is just harsh man!

Stephen's picture

That's true... I love his

That's true... I love his triangle (which was invented by the chinese centuries earlier but he still discovered on his own). It is very useful when simplifying polynomials.

I think Pascal's wager is just a way that agnostics can justify their theism...

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What is Pascal's triangle?

What is Pascal's triangle?

FroMagnon's picture

It's a concept used in

It's a concept used in Algebra, popular in working out polynomials. It may be used in other math forms that I just don't know about. It looks something like this.

http://mathforum.org/workshops/usi/pascal/images/pascal.hex2.gif

It's pretty awesome.

Not bad responses for the

Not bad responses for the most part. I am a little curious about point 4 though. is it relevant why God wants us to worship him (im making the assumption that he exists for the sake of the discussion)? He is the one with the power. And i dont remember Pascal ever saying God had to be perfect to be God. If we remove that from the equation then the argument fails. An imperfect god is still the god and the one with the power and therefore it is in our best interest to do as he wishes or suffer consequences of some sort. If we really want to refute such things we must look beyond the other sides definitions.

BTW - beleif isnt based on thought. It is irrelevant what you think when you choose to beleive something. Many people beleive in chance and beleive in luck even though such things are mathematical and not magical. Even if they know this sometimes they choose to beleive anyway.

Otherwise fine analysis.

Not bad responses for the

Not bad responses for the most part. I am a little curious about point 4 though. is it relevant why God wants us to worship him (im making the assumption that he exists for the sake of the discussion)? He is the one with the power. And i dont remember Pascal ever saying God had to be perfect to be God. If we remove that from the equation then the argument fails. An imperfect god is still the god and the one with the power and therefore it is in our best interest to do as he wishes or suffer consequences of some sort. If we really want to refute such things we must look beyond the other sides definitions.

BTW - beleif isnt based on thought. It is irrelevant what you think when you choose to beleive something. Many people beleive in chance and beleive in luck even though such things are mathematical and not magical. Even if they know this sometimes they choose to beleive anyway.

Otherwise fine analysis.

Of course there is the idea that we wouldnn't want to spend eternity with a god like that. But of course the alternative if we accept such a god to be real is far far worse. Thus it seems fair to argue that in fact it is a lesser of two evils to qorship God.

And in two you argue that perhaps the God in heaven values reason. Maybe so. Maybe not. But if either possibility is valid then perhaps it is wisest to hedge ones bets and be rational but also hold beleif. It is possible that beleif and rationality should go hand in hand.

Personally i dont buy that but it is worth pointing out.