Errors in the Bible.
Offline ALL proven false after the simplest of observation and thought.
IRON AX HEAD FLOATS. 2KGS 6:5-6
DONKEY TALKS. NUM 22:27-28
SNAKE TALKS. GEN 3:1
MAN WALKS ON WATER. MT 14:24-25
ONE LUNCH BASKET FEEDS THOUSANDS. MT 14:19-21
MEN LONG DEAD SEEN WALKING IN JERUSALEM. MT 27:52-53
MAGICIAN TURNS WATER INTO WINE. JN 2:6-11
SUN BACKS UP. 2KGS 22:3-11
RABBIT CHEWS THE CUD. LV 11:6
CAMEL DOES NOT DIVIDE THE HOOF. LV 11:4
FOUR LEGGED GRASSHOPPERS AND BEETLES. LV 11:21-23
GOURD PLANT MAKES SHADE TREE OVER NIGHT. JN 4:6-10
WORDS CONTROL WEATHER. MT 8:24-26
NEW WAY TO GREAT WEALTH. MT 21:22
GOD ADMITS LYING EZ 14:9. 2CHR 18:22
GOD DECEIVES PEOPLE OF EARTH. 2THES 2:11-12
SNAKE LOSES LEGS(they never had legs). GEN 3:14
GOD DELIBERATELY KEEPS PEOPLE FROM SALVATION(hes not loving). JN 12:40
MEN SURVIVE BLAZING FURNACE UNHARMED(impossible). DAN 3:6-27
SUN STANDS STILL. JOS 10:12-13
MAN RISES FROM THE DEAD. JN 11:44
MAN CALLS DOWN FIRE FROM SKY. 1KG18:33-38, 2KG1:10-12
ANGELS SEDUCE EARTH WOMEN. GEN 6:4
SUPER ALIENS FIGHT WAR IN SPACE. REV 12:7-9
FIRE IN BUSH TALKS TO MAN. EX 3:2-5
MAN SEES WHOLE EARTH FROM TEMPLE TOP. MT 4:8-9
WOMAN TURNS INTO SODIUM CHLORIDE IN SECONDS. GEN 19:26
ETERNAL FLOUR BUCKET DISCOVERED. 1KG 17:12-16
SHOES GUARANTIED FORTY YEARS, PANTS TOO. DU 29:5
TREE MAKES POISONED WATER DRINKABLE. EX 15:23-25
LONG HAIR MAKES MAN STRONG. JUG 16:17
HAIRCUT MAKES MAN WEAK. JUG 16:19
HOW THE RAINBOW GOT STARTED. GEN 9:13
GOD WILL DESTROY WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. 1COR 1:19
ALL LANGUAGES CAME FROM ONE PLACE(get a text book). GEN 11:6-9
GOD LOVES A GOOD BARBECUE. GEN 8:20-21
MAGIC STICK TURNS WATER INTO BLOOD. EX 7:20-22
DUST TURNED INTO LICE. EX 8:16-19
GHOST HAND WRITES GRAFFITI ON WALL. DAN 5:5
WITCH HUNT BEGUN BY GOD. EX 22:18
COCKATRICE ARE REAL. JER 8:17, IS 14:29
SATYRS ARE COMING. IS 34:14, 13:21
FIERY SERPENTS ABOUND. NUM 21:6, DU 8:15
WINGED SERPENTS COMING TO GET YOU. IS 30:6, 14:29
if the whole earth had EVER been flooded to the mountaintops, it would STILL be flooded to the mountaintops. Somebody lied about the flood. Someone stretched the truth beyond comprehension. It never happened, unless one is willing to accept the first mention of the flood as being 15 cubits high. If so, we are being told about a local storm and flood. Virginia has much better floods than that almost every year. There is geological evidence of great tidal waves, which swept over the earth, but we have enough water on earth all ready to account for this.
what did Noah do with the urine and manure? Did God constipate all the animals for a whole year? I have seen the vast amount of manure a few animals can deliver in one day. I have had to shovel it out of the stalls. Where did Noah and his three helpers put the manure for a whole year? The Bible tells us the animals were in the ark 376 days, "...from the seventeenth day of the second month of the first year, until the twenty seventh day of the second month of the second year."
Where did Noah get his water for himself and the animals? Don't say from the flood, because even if four miles of fresh water were mixed with the ocean's waters, the salt content would be far too high to drink without killing the animals and the humans. Noah would have had to tow another ark as big as his first one just to have survival water for the animals for 376 days. Nothing is mentioned about another ark.
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So aside from your bias against the miraculous the problem is what?
oh and one more thing:
Why couldnt he have created a rig to catch the rainwater as it fell?
Although its not really taht important to me, since I adhere to a local flood.
Pfff! Salt has Potassium and other stuff mixed in (and if it was newer salt it would have some Iodine)
I would challenge you to provide someone who believes in the literal interpretation of all of the above list.
those stories are almost certainly figurative (or based on rumor...)
(i'm not saying that you cant find someone who believes in all of those stories... only that it is unlikely)
Of course this assumes miracles are impossible. Do you really want to dive into rather or not miracles are possible? *rolls eyes* Your hate for Christianity and Christians is showing again....
How do you know that these are errors?
The answer is that you don't. You're merely biased against the possibility of miracles from the beginning. Because you've never seen one doesn't mean they don't occur.
I believe I've already discussed with you how Hume's argument fails.
This is interesting. Don't you believe in evolution? I'm pretty sure they've found a fossil of a snake-like creature, except with legs.
Come on you honestly believe magic is possible? I bet you don't believe in the miracles in any other holy books. So why should the Bible be an exception?
Come on you honestly believe magic is possible?
Got to love these definitions eh? Why do you call a miracle 'magic' because it makes them sound silly? What to hear my definition of a miracle?
Bring up a specific miracle from another religion and we'll discuss it. Don't bring up Islam... because the miracles attributed to Mohamed come from centuries after his death and even scholars of Islam don't think of them as authentic miracles by Mohamed. We can also say the same about many other religions.
I've already been there done that and have the Tee Shrit, got another card you care to play?
Crystal
I can actually. I have Wiccan friends who claim they can do magic. And I have no reason to doubt them.
Depends, which Holy books are you refering to?
The Quran contains no record of any miracles. Its just a collection of Muhamad's sermons.
Theres no evidence for any of the events recorded in the Book of Morman.
I'm going to wait for more spacifics here.
Its not.
There is a very distinct difference between "magic" and "miracle," Dave.
n.
1. The art that purports to control or forecast natural events, effects, or forces by invoking the supernatural.
2.
1. The practice of using charms, spells, or rituals to attempt to produce supernatural effects or control events in nature.
2. The charms, spells, and rituals so used.
3. The exercise of sleight of hand or conjuring for entertainment.
4. A mysterious quality of enchantment: "For me the names of those men breathed the magic of the past" (Max Beerbohm).
Miracle
–noun
1. an effect or extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers and is ascribed to a supernatural cause.
2. such an effect or event manifesting or considered as a work of God.
3. a wonder; marvel.
4. a wonderful or surpassing example of some quality: a miracle of modern acoustics.
5. miracle play.
[Origin: 1125–75; ME miracle, miracul (< OF miracle) < L mīrāculum, equiv. to mīrā(rī) to wonder at + -culum -cle2]
I assume that we are using definition no. 1 and 2 on both words
(Source Dictionary.com)
The only difference that I see is that one uses God, the other 'invoking the supernatural' and the aims are different
Both defy physics as we currently know them and both are controlled by a power greater than ourselves, both are used by frauds as a source of income and both are truely believed in my many (far more on the miracle side)
The both start with 'M'
need I continue?
The both start with 'M'
Guruite, I have a feeling that is the definition of 'magic' he is using is that it's little more then a trick and by calling a miracle 'magic' he is basically saying miracles do not exist or are tricks.
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I can actually. I have Wiccan friends who claim they can do magic. And I have no reason to doubt them.
The only problem with this answer (assuming you're christian) is that christians believe that Pagans and Wiccans are evil witches and that they should die (hints the Salem witch trials). Let’s think about this though... Pegans are evil because they don't believe in juses and they worship the earth and everything natural but the christians aren't even though they forced the Irish Celts to either convert to christianity or die (I'm not even gonna go into what they did to the Native Americans cuz that’s a long ass schpeal). And Wiccans are evil because they do magic but the christians worship a man who (supposedly) not only walked on water and turned water into wine but returned from the dead. Can you say HYPOCRISY?!
Welcome to the board, Wicked!
Thanks!
Any thoughts on this topic noor? Just curious as to where you stand on this.
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Yes. Although under the New Covenant punishment is Gods responsibility. So no need to kill them.
Actually I would say both were evil
Also, what happened to the Indians was as much a result of greed, desire for power, and the American need for 'wide open spaces' as it was a result of religion.
The thing is though. Its not so much the magic itself thats the problem, as it is the SOURCE of said magic.
There are no errors in the Bible
Read
ALLEGED DISCREPENCIES OF THE BIBLE
and
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BIBLE DIFFICULTIES, by Archer (if my memory is correct)
also www.carm.org
ALLEGED DISCREPENCIES OF THE BIBLE
and
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF BIBLE DIFFICULTIES, by Archer (if my memory is correct)
This isnt the topic to post this. Try posting a topic about it, and see if any one debates it.